Episode No. 365 features curator Esther Adler and artist Alida Cervantes.

With Sarah Kelly Oehler, Adler is the co-curator of "Charles White: A Retrospective" at the Museum of Modern Art, New York. The exhibition is the first major museum full-career survey of White's work in over three decades. It spotlights White's painting, drawing and photographs, and includes archival material especially related to his mural practice. "Charles White" is on view at MoMA through January 13, 2019, when it will travel to the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. The exhibition catalogue was published by the Art Institute of Chicago, which originated the show, and is distributed by Yale University Press. Amazon offers it for $34.

On the second segment, artist Alida Cervantes discusses her work on the occasion of "Being Here with You/ Estando aquí contigo" at the Museum of Contemporary Art San Diego. The exhibition presents the work of 42 artists and collectives living and working in the San Diego and Tijuana region. The exhibition, which is at MCASD's downtown Jacobs Building, is on view through February 3, 2019. The exhibition catalogue is available at the museum. Concurrently, Cervantes's work is on view in in "Hello hero, hero hello. Hello Hero, Hello hello" at Efrain Lopez Projects in Chicago. It's up through November 10.

Episode No. 364 features historian and curator Eleanor Harvey and historian Tyler Green.

Tyler Green is the author of "Carleton Watkins: Making the West American," a new biography-ish of the most influential American artist of the 19th century, and that century’s greatest photographer too. He his best known for his pictures of Yosemite Valley and the nearby Mariposa Grove of giant sequoias made at the outbreak of the Civil War.

Watkins’s pictures helped shape America’s (and the world’s) idea of the West, and helped make the West a full participant in the Union and then the nation. His pictures of California, Oregon, and Nevada, as well as modern-day Washington, Utah, and Arizona, not only introduced entire landscapes to America but were important to the development of American business, finance, agriculture, government policy, painting and science.

Green is (usually) the producer/host of The Modern Art Notes Podcast.

Green is interviewed by Eleanor Harvey, the senior curator at the Smithsonian American Art Museum. Her most recent major exhibition was "The Civil War and American Art" (2012). She's presently working on an exhibition about Alexander von Humboldt's influence on American art and culture.

Watkins is available at bookstores and from Amazon (for just $23!), UC Press, Bookfinder and your local independent bookstore (via IndieBound).

Episode No. 363 features curators Tracey Bashkoff and Lawrence W. Nichols.

The Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in New York is showing "Hilma af Klint: Paintings for the Future," a survey of Swedish artist Hilma af Klint (1862-1944). The exhibition features more than 170 of af Klint’s artworks with a focus on the artist’s most significant period, from 1906–20, when her interest in spirtualism helped push her toward non-objective imagery.  It is the first major solo exhibition of af Klint's work in the United States. Tracey Bashkoff curated the exhibition with assistance from David Horowitz. It will be on view through April 23, 2019. The exhibition's excellent catalogue was published by the Guggenheim. Amazon offers it for $40.

On the second segment, Lawrence W. Nichols discusses "Frans Hals Family Portraits: A Reunion," at the Toledo Museum of Art. It is the first exhibition devoted to Hals's family portraiture. The show was motivated  by Toledo's 2011 acquisition of Hals's Van Campen Family Portrait in a Landscape and the recent conservation of Hals's Three Children of the Van Campen Family at the Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium in Brussels. The Toledo and Brussels canvases were originally a single painting, separated for unknown reasons in either the late 18th or early 19th century. Toledo has reunited the two paintings for this show, along with a third, a fragment of a painting presently in a private collection. The exhibition is in Toledo through Jan. 6, 2019. The exhibition catalogue was published by Hirmer. Amazon offers it for $33.

Episode No. 362 features artist Laurie Simmons and curator Allegra Pesenti.

The Modern Art Museum of Fort Worth opens "Laurie Simmons: Big Camera/Little Camera," a retrospective of Simmons's career, on October 14. The exhibition spotlights Simmons's long-standing interest in gender roles, most famously in series of pictures that have used dolls and props. It will be on view through January 27, 2019.

On the second segment, Hammer Museum curator Allegra Pesenti discusses "Stones to Stains: The Drawings of Victor Hugo," a survey of Hugo's drawing practice. Hugo was a poet, novelist, playwright and critic best known for novels such as Les Miserables and The Hunchback of Notre Dame. He was a prolific draftsman -- he made at  least 3,000 drawings -- but did not much exhibit during his own lifetime. "Stones to Stains" features 75 drawings mostly made on the Channel Islands of Jersey and Guernsey betwene 1852 and 1870. Pesenti co-curated the show with Cynthia Burlingham in association with Florian Rodari. The beautiful catalogue was published by DelMonico Prestel. Amazon offers it for $31.

Episode No. 361 features curator Catherine Craft and historian Jessie Sentivan.

Craft is the curator of "The Nature of Arp," which is at the Nasher Sculpture Center in Dallas through January 6, 2019. The exhibition is a retrospective of Jean Arp (or in German, Hans Arp), one of the most important artists of both the Dada and surrealist movements. Arp investigated chance and spontaneity in his collage-based work and the human form, abstraction and the processes of nature in his sculpture. The exhibition at the Nasher features over 80 works from throughout his career. The exhibition is accompanied by an excellent catalogue published by the Nasher.

On the second segment, curator and historian Jessie Sentivan discusses two Kay Sage-related projects. Sentivan is the editor of the Kay Sage catalogue raisonne, newly out from Delmonico Prestel. Amazon offers it for $100. Sentivan has also curated "Kay Sage: Serene Surrealist," an exhibition at the Williams College Museum of Art that recreates Sage's inaugural 1950 exhibition with the Catherine Viviano Gallery in New York. It's on view through January 13, 2019.

Episode No. 360 features curator Tamara Schenkenberg and artist Angela Fraleigh.

Schenkenberg is the curator of "Ruth Asawa: Life's Work" at the Pulitzer Arts Foundation in St. Louis. Ruth Asawa (1926-2013) was a San Francisco-based artist who melded traditional craft practices with industrial materials to make some of the most distinctive sculpture of the twentieth century. The exhibition includes 80 works including sculpture, works on paper and collages spanning the start of Asawa's career at Black Mountain College in western North Carolina to the intricate and complicated ceiling-hanging works of her later years. It is the first museum exhibition of Asawa's work in 12 years and the first away from the West Coast. The exhibition is on view until February 16, 2019. A catalogue is forthcoming from Yale University Press. Amazon offers it for pre-order for $40.

Angela Fraleigh is included in "The Un-Heroic Act: Representations of  Rape in Contemporary Women's Art in the U.S." at the Shiva Gallery at John Jay College. The exhibition includes artists such as Kara Walker, Yoko Ono, Senga Nengudi and Suzanne Lacy and was curated by Monica Fabijanska. It is on view through November 2. On Wednesday, October 3, the Shiva will host an evening symposium related to the exhibition.

Fraleigh is a painter and sculptor whose work engages issues of desire and power. Her work is in the collections of the Kemper Art Museum in Kansas City and the Museum of Fine Arts Houston.

Episode No. 359 features artists lauren woods and Eva Struble.

Artist lauren woods was scheduled to open American MONUMENT this week at the University Art Museum at California State University Long Beach. woods "paused" American MONUMENT after CSULB fired UAM director and American MONUMENT curator Kimberli Meyer on September 11, just days before the project was set to open. American MONUMENT is an interactive sound installation that utilizes open records-sourced materials such as police reports.

On the second segment, artist Eva Struble discusses her work and her interest in California's migrant agricultural labor sector. Struble is one of 42 artists included in "Being Here with You/ Estando aquí contigo," which opens at the Museum of Contemporary Art San Diego this weekend.

Episode No. 358 of The Modern Art Notes Podcast features artist Mickalene Thomas.

"Mickalene Thomas: I Can't See You Without Me" opens at The Wexner Center for the Arts on Friday, September 14. The exhibition features fifty artworks, including paintings, sculptures and installations, around the theme of four of Thomas's most significant muses: her late mother Sandra; her former girlfriend, Maya; her current partner, Racquel; and Thomas herself. The show was curated by Michael Goodson and will be on view through December 30. The exhibition catalogue was published by the Wexner. Amazon offers it for $40.

The exhibition will premiere Thomas's Je t'aime trois, a multichannel video set to music by Terri Lyne Carrington. It was enabled by a Wexner Center Artist Residency Award. On October 4, Thomas will perform entrepe, a live, improvised DJ set as a response to Carrington's work.

Thomas's work is also featured in "People Get Ready: Building a Contemporary Collection," at the Nasher Museum of Art at Duke University. The show presents work that addresses issues ranging from identity to social justice and environmentalism. It was curated by Trevor Schoonmaker and will be on view through January 6, 2019.

Thomas's work has been the subject of solo exhibitions all over the world, including at the Brooklyn Museum, the ICA Boston, the former Santa Monica Museum of Art, New York's Aperture Foundation, the Aspen Art Museum, the Spelman College Museum of Fine Art and more.

Thomas was previously a guest on Episode No. 30 in 2012.

Episode No. 357 features artist Rachel Whiteread.

The National Gallery of Art in Washington opens a retrospective of Whiteread's thirty-year career on September 16. The exhibition will feature more than 100 objects, from her earliest casts of domestic objects such as a swimming cap, to her most important sculptures, such as Ghost (1990) from the NGA's own collection. The show will extend into the atrium of the NGA's East Building, where the museum will install Whiteread's Untitled (Domestic) (2002), a 22-foot-tall plaster cast of the negative space of a fire escape staircase loaned by the Carnegie Museum of Art and the Albright-Knox Art Gallery. "Rachel Whiteread" is on view in Washington through January 13, 2019. It was curated by Molly Donovan and Ann Gallagher. From Washington it will travel to the Saint Louis Art Museum. The excellent exhibition catalogue was published by the Tate, which originated the exhibition. Amazon offers it starting at $31.

Episode No. 356 features artist Wayne Thiebaud.

Next month, the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art will offer two Thiebaud exhibitions: “Paintings and Drawings,” a presentation of Thiebauds in SFMOMA’s collection, and “Artist’s Choice,” a Thiebaud-selected installation of artworks from the museum’s collection. Both shows open on Sept. 29.

This conversation is part two of a program that host Tyler Green recorded with Thiebaud in December, 2017. It first aired in January, 2018. For images, see Episode No. 324.