Suzanne Lacy, Thomas Nozkowski

Episode No. 393 features artists Suzanne Lacy and Thomas Nozkowski.

The San Francisco Museum of Modern Art and the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts are jointly presenting the retrospective "Suzanne Lacy: We are Here." The exhibition explores Lacy's roots in early conceptualism and her emergence as a pioneer of what has become known as social practice, the use of community organizing and media-focused strategies to prompt events and discussions. The exhibitions are on view in San Francisco through August 4.

On the second segment, a clip from host Tyler Green's 2013 conversation with painter Thomas Nozkowski, who died last week. He was 75. Nozkowski was a painter's painter. He had over seventy solo shows around the world and his work is in almost every major museum collection you can think of, all to little fanfare. His last retrospective was a decade ago, at the National Gallery of Canada.