John Beasley Greene, Marcia Tucker

Episode No. 411 features curator Corey Keller and museum director Johanna Burton.

Keller is the curator of "Signs and Wonders: The Photographs of John Beaslsey Greene," at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art through January 5, 2020. Greene, an American who was raised in France, learned photography from Gustave Le Gray and took it to archaeology, melding the two fields at a time when each was in its infancy.

On the second segment. Wexner Center for the Arts director Johanna Burton discusses "Out of Bounds: The Collected Writings of Marcia Tucker." Along with Lisa Phillips and Alicia Ritson, Burton co-edited the volume with assistance from Kate Wiener. The book includes a broad range of Tucker's writing, from essays about artists to lectures she gave about art and issues in the art museum field. Many of the writings are published here for the first time. "Out of Bounds" was published by the Getty Research Institute and the New Museum.